H4_losing_hope
02-29 07:37 PM
At my workplace, about 50% of them have have signed this letter now! This is including but not limited to employees with an immigrant background ( including but not limied to the Indians and the Chinese!)
My tally is now up to 253. Expecting another 2 this evening from a friend who got it from 2 of his own friends.
Recruit friends & strangers to help you, then follow up a little bit, it helps!
Exciting stuff. I am at 237 and there is a chance I will get some this weekend so I will take care of those last ones. Come on folks, please do the best you can.
My tally is now up to 253. Expecting another 2 this evening from a friend who got it from 2 of his own friends.
Recruit friends & strangers to help you, then follow up a little bit, it helps!
Exciting stuff. I am at 237 and there is a chance I will get some this weekend so I will take care of those last ones. Come on folks, please do the best you can.
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scamp
05-10 09:27 PM
Hi,
My company just laid off although I am not one of them my question is can i stiil apply labor certification substitution?
Thanks.
My company just laid off although I am not one of them my question is can i stiil apply labor certification substitution?
Thanks.
Robert Kumar
03-27 12:18 PM
I came in 2005 and was eligible in 2006 for EB3 as per company's policy. There was huge retrogression then and I was hoping EB2 would be better for GC and career. Anyway, that's not the point.
One thing I like is that people are acknowledging the porting is a loophole and plan to use it anyway since it suits them.
Dear Sir,
Not convincing. 2006 was when Retrogression started. And it was declared HUGE only in 2007,8,9,10. Just because some Tom or D has forcasted that therez gonna be huge retrogression, we dont base our GC plans on that. Correct..
If everyone were to go with your logic, then I guess EB2 qualified guys must wait for .. well how many years, u tell us.. to apply in .. EB1 ".. And what shoudl EB3 guys do..
The point is, lets focus our energies on the main problem which all of us face, and not show any disgust on any one category. I know how it feels if someone is coming in front of me in my line.. But how can we stop them.
Lets bring attention to releasing those wasted visas, quota problems etc..
If equal spillover happens from EB1 to rest of categories, EB2 will affected immediatley.
One thing I like is that people are acknowledging the porting is a loophole and plan to use it anyway since it suits them.
Dear Sir,
Not convincing. 2006 was when Retrogression started. And it was declared HUGE only in 2007,8,9,10. Just because some Tom or D has forcasted that therez gonna be huge retrogression, we dont base our GC plans on that. Correct..
If everyone were to go with your logic, then I guess EB2 qualified guys must wait for .. well how many years, u tell us.. to apply in .. EB1 ".. And what shoudl EB3 guys do..
The point is, lets focus our energies on the main problem which all of us face, and not show any disgust on any one category. I know how it feels if someone is coming in front of me in my line.. But how can we stop them.
Lets bring attention to releasing those wasted visas, quota problems etc..
If equal spillover happens from EB1 to rest of categories, EB2 will affected immediatley.
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hebron
06-15 06:58 PM
Hi, I have a question about PERM labor process. How soon can an employer apply PERM labor certification after hiring an employee?
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ianlock
09-17 04:23 PM
hang on.. but they are...as retroed as the rest of them...ROW and philpines are both AUG 02 for EB3.... ROW EB3 has been retroed for months and months.
that doesnt make any sence to me.?
so the ROW countries have no per county limits??? then why are they retroed??????
that doesnt make any sence to me.?
so the ROW countries have no per county limits??? then why are they retroed??????
JaiHo
05-18 12:40 PM
done....got e-mail response from senators office.
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pa_arora
07-15 05:47 PM
I already mentioned in my previous posts (multiple posts with same matter for people like you and me, see it and understand it well) how we are getting more than 50k visas just for EB2 India. I am giving it here again the visa allotments for 2006 and 2007 years when theres vertical fallouts. Now its changed to horizontal fall outs.
Due to this as many of us think its not the EB3 India which is losing, but its EB3 ROW.
Class --------------------------------------> 2006 | 2007
Total Employment-based Approvals ----------> 159,081 | 162,176
EB1 ---------------------------------------> 36,960 | 26,697
EB2 ---------------------------------------> 21,911 | 44,162
EB3 ---------------------------------------> 89,922 | 85,030
Fourth:-------------------------------------> 9,539 | 5,481
Fifth (investors) ----------------------------> 749 | 806
See the Total Employment Based Visa approvals for 2006 and 2007 159,081 and 162,176. But there are only 140,000 visas in EB category. The rest of the visas came from Family Based visas which are not used for the previous fiscal year. The share for each category: Each EB1, EB2 and EB3 should get 1/3 of 140,000 = 46,666. But due to the less demand in EB1 and EB2 ROW all the visas falling to EB3 ROW due to the Vertical falling.
EB1 ROW --> EB2 ROW --> EB3 ROW.
EB1 INDIA --> EB2 INDIA --> EB3 INDIA.
As theres not much demand for EB1 ROW and EB2 ROW, all the unused visas are going to fall to EB3 ROW. So from this time its going to be like Horizotal fall out like below.
EB1 ROW/EB1 INDIA --> EB2 ROW/ EB2India/ EB2China-->EB3ROW/EB3 INDIA.
So this time to fall any VISAS into EB3 ROW they have to pass through EB2 India/EB2 China. So this makes EB3 ROW dates would retrogress due to the decrease in visa numbers availabilty.
As I said each category would have 46,666. So EB1 and EB2 together will have around 93,332 visas. But in EB1+EB2 in 2006 about 50,000 visas approved and in 2007 about 70,000 visas approved. So for 2008 also asume the demand for EB1 and EB2 is 70,000. But the availability of VISAS are 93,332 as said above + unused family visas which come around 19,000+.
So for this 2008 fiscal year for EB2 India and China the total visa numbers availla ble are
(93,332 +19,000) - 70,000 = 42,332.
So around 42 thousand + 9,800 (regular 7% of 140k) = around 52k Visas Just for India , because EB2 China was already Jan 2006 a year back. And I dont think it would take any considerable share in this 50k other than its regular 9,800 visas.
Get me back if you have any doubts.
Hi vldrao
I see ur predictions coming true, but with a big BUT, the flow "EB1 ROW/EB1 INDIA --> EB2 ROW/ EB2India/ EB2China-->EB3ROW/EB3 INDIA." may be a make-shift approach just to use up leftover visas for this year. This is not a published rule anywhere. So how can u be so certain based on Ron Gotcher or how can he be so certain that this gonna be the approach going forward.
If u made this prediction based on the above rule, then where did u get the news that the visa flow will be changed from vertical to horisontal???? Or was it just a fluke????
We have being diched by USCIS/DOS so many times that i believe such move "too good to be true". It seems like this VB is also like the July07 where everybody when current with the difference that only EB2 IC are forwarded.
Due to this as many of us think its not the EB3 India which is losing, but its EB3 ROW.
Class --------------------------------------> 2006 | 2007
Total Employment-based Approvals ----------> 159,081 | 162,176
EB1 ---------------------------------------> 36,960 | 26,697
EB2 ---------------------------------------> 21,911 | 44,162
EB3 ---------------------------------------> 89,922 | 85,030
Fourth:-------------------------------------> 9,539 | 5,481
Fifth (investors) ----------------------------> 749 | 806
See the Total Employment Based Visa approvals for 2006 and 2007 159,081 and 162,176. But there are only 140,000 visas in EB category. The rest of the visas came from Family Based visas which are not used for the previous fiscal year. The share for each category: Each EB1, EB2 and EB3 should get 1/3 of 140,000 = 46,666. But due to the less demand in EB1 and EB2 ROW all the visas falling to EB3 ROW due to the Vertical falling.
EB1 ROW --> EB2 ROW --> EB3 ROW.
EB1 INDIA --> EB2 INDIA --> EB3 INDIA.
As theres not much demand for EB1 ROW and EB2 ROW, all the unused visas are going to fall to EB3 ROW. So from this time its going to be like Horizotal fall out like below.
EB1 ROW/EB1 INDIA --> EB2 ROW/ EB2India/ EB2China-->EB3ROW/EB3 INDIA.
So this time to fall any VISAS into EB3 ROW they have to pass through EB2 India/EB2 China. So this makes EB3 ROW dates would retrogress due to the decrease in visa numbers availabilty.
As I said each category would have 46,666. So EB1 and EB2 together will have around 93,332 visas. But in EB1+EB2 in 2006 about 50,000 visas approved and in 2007 about 70,000 visas approved. So for 2008 also asume the demand for EB1 and EB2 is 70,000. But the availability of VISAS are 93,332 as said above + unused family visas which come around 19,000+.
So for this 2008 fiscal year for EB2 India and China the total visa numbers availla ble are
(93,332 +19,000) - 70,000 = 42,332.
So around 42 thousand + 9,800 (regular 7% of 140k) = around 52k Visas Just for India , because EB2 China was already Jan 2006 a year back. And I dont think it would take any considerable share in this 50k other than its regular 9,800 visas.
Get me back if you have any doubts.
Hi vldrao
I see ur predictions coming true, but with a big BUT, the flow "EB1 ROW/EB1 INDIA --> EB2 ROW/ EB2India/ EB2China-->EB3ROW/EB3 INDIA." may be a make-shift approach just to use up leftover visas for this year. This is not a published rule anywhere. So how can u be so certain based on Ron Gotcher or how can he be so certain that this gonna be the approach going forward.
If u made this prediction based on the above rule, then where did u get the news that the visa flow will be changed from vertical to horisontal???? Or was it just a fluke????
We have being diched by USCIS/DOS so many times that i believe such move "too good to be true". It seems like this VB is also like the July07 where everybody when current with the difference that only EB2 IC are forwarded.
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green_card_06
09-28 12:58 AM
My company went through a 10% workforce reduction company-wide just when my PERM application was ready to be filed. Although nobody from my group has been affected, 2 people with the same job title from a different group in the same office were affected. Their job descriptions are entirely different. I have about a year and a half before my H1B expires. I would appreciate anybody answering the following questions I have:
1. In Form 9089, should the answer to Item 26 be 'No' since nobody in my group or area of expertise was affected?
2. If the answer to Item 26 should be 'Yes', is it sufficient to notify and consider the people laid off? I am confident that they will not qualify for the position. How long should this 'notification and interview' period typically be?
3. I have heard that my company can be sent an audit notice. In such a case, is it sufficent to justify that the area of expertise is different. What is the success rate for this?
4. If the audit response is rejected, what happens then? I have been told that the employee will have to return to his home country immediately and cannot refile his PERM application.
1. In Form 9089, should the answer to Item 26 be 'No' since nobody in my group or area of expertise was affected?
2. If the answer to Item 26 should be 'Yes', is it sufficient to notify and consider the people laid off? I am confident that they will not qualify for the position. How long should this 'notification and interview' period typically be?
3. I have heard that my company can be sent an audit notice. In such a case, is it sufficent to justify that the area of expertise is different. What is the success rate for this?
4. If the audit response is rejected, what happens then? I have been told that the employee will have to return to his home country immediately and cannot refile his PERM application.
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ssingh92
06-12 06:42 PM
First - EB2s stop replying posts that were written in frustration and you understand why, They will not affect and take away your GC. Since you are not frustrated you have to start first.
Second - EB3s - Frustration will never bring you anything and you can not move PD faster. Instead capatialize the situation that EB2s are getting GC. How you have to think and focus.
I can give my example. I made network of some who got GC and have some influence in recruiting. After working 9 years for a big Pharma and got layed off, My one buddy got GC long back in EB2 , helped me and received job through him though I have to drive 220miles everyday.
Am I frustrated yes!! More than anybody else here but has to calm down and think positivily.
Hope my post will help you to reduce some frustration.
Second - EB3s - Frustration will never bring you anything and you can not move PD faster. Instead capatialize the situation that EB2s are getting GC. How you have to think and focus.
I can give my example. I made network of some who got GC and have some influence in recruiting. After working 9 years for a big Pharma and got layed off, My one buddy got GC long back in EB2 , helped me and received job through him though I have to drive 220miles everyday.
Am I frustrated yes!! More than anybody else here but has to calm down and think positivily.
Hope my post will help you to reduce some frustration.
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06-12 11:53 PM
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chanduv23
02-07 12:33 PM
Come on dear community members - lets all kake this campaign a great success. Please keep this thread on top
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kaisersose
07-14 01:41 PM
Repeating. - It would be interesting to see folks whoese PD is prior to Apr 2004 and still waiting for GC..Can you come forward.
You can check . Plenty of people waiting...
You can check . Plenty of people waiting...
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claudia255
09-21 10:37 PM
How about a candle night vigil outside all state capitals, one Friday/Saturday/Sunday evening? This is a symbolic gesture for the slow death of our green card dreams.
That is a very good idea!
That is a very good idea!
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gk_2000
03-28 09:11 PM
I was referring to your clandestine negative comment.
I thought that was straight to the point, as you started using expletive. According to our friend MC, to be a man you must behave like this. I disagree with him, so I expressed this view, so people can behave like gentlemen and not cavemen.
To MC, Through all this, I personally mean you no insult.. it is just your attitude and I have been lecturing you a lot on that lately, only on that.
I thought that was straight to the point, as you started using expletive. According to our friend MC, to be a man you must behave like this. I disagree with him, so I expressed this view, so people can behave like gentlemen and not cavemen.
To MC, Through all this, I personally mean you no insult.. it is just your attitude and I have been lecturing you a lot on that lately, only on that.
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ivvm
03-22 10:09 PM
I would not agree with your interpretation. You are insinuating that a majority of the EB based green cards sponsored by employers are similar to family sponsored green card and also that people are favoured for their nationality.....how did you arrive at this conclusion?
Possibly your exposure may be limited to mom and pop shops and that may be the basis of your analysis....!!
Working in a "regular" company and having the authority to hire people in my department, "nationality" thoughts have never crossed my mind....!!!
I agree; the law definitively leaves no room for error. If all the visas are held back until fourth quarter then there is a significant chance that visas will go unused.
At a high level; country quotas in EB do not make a whole lot of sense. I have tried to figure out why they are there; how companies and candidates use EB greencards. Conclusion, I came up with is that in a lot of ways EB is a way to circumvent family base immigration. Many peoples parents have greencards, brothers, sisters, friends, etc; and they realize that it takes too long to get greencard through family base and the fastest way is to come through h-1b and go through EB route. Also; companies; company owners will favor their own people in filing h-1b's and greencards and then you have a situation where certain people are favored due to their nationality or connection. I firmly believe that uscis and the regulatory authorities understand this and hence the reason why there is country quotas.
Possibly your exposure may be limited to mom and pop shops and that may be the basis of your analysis....!!
Working in a "regular" company and having the authority to hire people in my department, "nationality" thoughts have never crossed my mind....!!!
I agree; the law definitively leaves no room for error. If all the visas are held back until fourth quarter then there is a significant chance that visas will go unused.
At a high level; country quotas in EB do not make a whole lot of sense. I have tried to figure out why they are there; how companies and candidates use EB greencards. Conclusion, I came up with is that in a lot of ways EB is a way to circumvent family base immigration. Many peoples parents have greencards, brothers, sisters, friends, etc; and they realize that it takes too long to get greencard through family base and the fastest way is to come through h-1b and go through EB route. Also; companies; company owners will favor their own people in filing h-1b's and greencards and then you have a situation where certain people are favored due to their nationality or connection. I firmly believe that uscis and the regulatory authorities understand this and hence the reason why there is country quotas.
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nosightofgc
08-20 09:56 PM
Which embassy? I had the same experience when I renewed my passport. For passport renewal we need to apply on line. When they gave me the new passport, it had the wrong issuedate of the original passport. When I asked about that the lady in the counter started yelling at me saying its my fault and it is what I typed on line. She showed me her computer screen as if its my fault and finally they made a note in the passport with pen.
After I came home, I checked the copy I took when I applied and I entered correct information. Interesting thing is same typos happened to several people on the same day, and the embassey staff told every one the same story.
After I came home, I checked the copy I took when I applied and I entered correct information. Interesting thing is same typos happened to several people on the same day, and the embassey staff told every one the same story.
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walking_dude
04-25 09:22 PM
My contribution of $100 to the Recapture Drive. ID #9SC496742L7390206. This is in addition to $50 monthly contribution (already sent this month) and money spent to travel to DC for Phase II lobbying.
Together we will Recapture all the wasted visas. Go IV.
Together we will Recapture all the wasted visas. Go IV.
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Winner
07-01 05:37 PM
Now go ahead and give me red dots. but my only request is please call and get your Husbands/Wifes/GF/BF to call. I will be happy with red dots if you at least call.
You don�t deserve a red dot. Thanks for explaining the need for action in a passionate way. I know it does not matter, but gave a green dot anyways.
You don�t deserve a red dot. Thanks for explaining the need for action in a passionate way. I know it does not matter, but gave a green dot anyways.
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newuser
05-01 09:10 AM
Here comes my contribution..
Amount: $100.00 USD
Transaction ID: 3K3224173C5685629
Amount: $100.00 USD
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AK_GC
06-29 02:07 PM
Call the 1-800 number in the approval notice and select the options 1->7->4->3 and they will be able to help check the status of the application. You need the receipt no when you call them
Did just that. I believe it is approved. Will wait for it in the mail now.
Did just that. I believe it is approved. Will wait for it in the mail now.
JunRN
09-13 09:32 PM
Something can happen if we have a Democrat Congress which is filibuster-proof, meaning > 60% of total membership must be Democrats, AND a Democrat President, then something good could happen for us. It might not be exactly what we like because "undocumented" will get the same as well, but atleast also get what we want.
Nothing good will happen for us if we have a Republican Congress and Republican President. They will just make life hard for all of us --legal or undocumented alike. If we are having a hard-time getting a Driver's License right now, then expect worse if this combination happens next year plus the continuing recession.
Republican Congress + Republican President + Recession = NIGHTMARE FOR IMMIGRANTS
They will put all the blame on us, which is already happening right now.
Nothing good will happen for us if we have a Republican Congress and Republican President. They will just make life hard for all of us --legal or undocumented alike. If we are having a hard-time getting a Driver's License right now, then expect worse if this combination happens next year plus the continuing recession.
Republican Congress + Republican President + Recession = NIGHTMARE FOR IMMIGRANTS
They will put all the blame on us, which is already happening right now.
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