vbkris77
02-02 01:04 PM
You are correct, existing law is not fair but we have no say in this. If and when CIR is passed, this can be repelled or at least relaxed. So instead of wasting energy on these, lets meet lawmakers and educate and push for a CIR that works for everyone. Again don't start another blabbering that CIR is only for illegals etc. It is the only way out at this point or be my guest and wait eternity extending EAD/AP.
Another Example:
Let us say, Employer XYZ has 3 employees on H-1B. Its upto Employer's choice to file green card for any or all of them. Employer may decide to sponsor employment based green card for only 1 of them.
If employer decides to sponsor green card for only 1 of the H-1B worker, can other 2 H-1B workers claim right to get sponsored based on Equal Opportunity Law? The answer is No, since it is perfectly ok and does not come under employment based discremination.
People here are mixing 2 different laws without knowing law's applicability limitations.
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Another Example:
Let us say, Employer XYZ has 3 employees on H-1B. Its upto Employer's choice to file green card for any or all of them. Employer may decide to sponsor employment based green card for only 1 of them.
If employer decides to sponsor green card for only 1 of the H-1B worker, can other 2 H-1B workers claim right to get sponsored based on Equal Opportunity Law? The answer is No, since it is perfectly ok and does not come under employment based discremination.
People here are mixing 2 different laws without knowing law's applicability limitations.
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authrd
09-22 10:41 AM
Irrespective of whether or not cheapass desi sw consulting companies have spoilt it for the rest of us, the point here is that making us wait for an unreasonably long time is something we ought to question..which is what I believe IV is doing
I dont mind if the congress passes a bill and says it's going to take 6 yrs for a person to get his GC..its the uncertainty around retrogression thats bugging me. If I know it's going to take 6 or 8 or 10 yrs, i'd gladly look elsewhere..perhaps even go back to my home country.
I dont mind if the congress passes a bill and says it's going to take 6 yrs for a person to get his GC..its the uncertainty around retrogression thats bugging me. If I know it's going to take 6 or 8 or 10 yrs, i'd gladly look elsewhere..perhaps even go back to my home country.
ArkBird
06-15 08:45 PM
Hi, I have a question about PERM labor process. How soon can an employer apply PERM labor certification after hiring an employee?
There is no statutory requirement on wait time. You may not even be an employee when your future employer files for your PERM as green card is for future job.
It's up to your company policies and your "persuasion skills!"
There is no statutory requirement on wait time. You may not even be an employee when your future employer files for your PERM as green card is for future job.
It's up to your company policies and your "persuasion skills!"
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vjkypally
11-15 01:31 PM
Flower campaign wasnt started by iv (atleast not by the seniors), it slowly gathered momentum on its own and produced results. After seeing this bulletin I ve lost hope in all this lobbying and stuff. We need publicity and more of it. Fasting for a day if organized by iv could bring more results.
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GCBy3000
07-19 03:44 PM
yes corret,
I do not understand the point of moving to Canada to come back to US when the retrogression seems to end(which never ends).
What is the point in moving to Canada and waiting for something from US. I would very well stay in US and wait. At least US is better than Canada on every aspect including $$$.
I would say, if you have PR and if you can get a very good satisfying job than what you are doing here which would add value down the line, then there is a point in moving. Just for the heck of having a PR, moving to Canada is not a wise thing to do.
I am sorry to tell you that by going to Canada, in the end you may be better off going back home. I lived there as a PR and I have many Canadian citizens that are tired of the lame system back in the Socialist Canada.
I do not understand the point of moving to Canada to come back to US when the retrogression seems to end(which never ends).
What is the point in moving to Canada and waiting for something from US. I would very well stay in US and wait. At least US is better than Canada on every aspect including $$$.
I would say, if you have PR and if you can get a very good satisfying job than what you are doing here which would add value down the line, then there is a point in moving. Just for the heck of having a PR, moving to Canada is not a wise thing to do.
I am sorry to tell you that by going to Canada, in the end you may be better off going back home. I lived there as a PR and I have many Canadian citizens that are tired of the lame system back in the Socialist Canada.
umndude
05-17 01:45 PM
Just did it. Very easy process. Thanks to IV.
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hebbar77
10-01 04:55 PM
We indians could not unite when colonizers came....
We indians could not unite after 1947 and trying to find ways to split ourselves(language/region caste... and #&*!)
And we cant stop fighting on a immigration forum after leaving indian soil...
I am wondering why!!
Jai ho.
We indians could not unite after 1947 and trying to find ways to split ourselves(language/region caste... and #&*!)
And we cant stop fighting on a immigration forum after leaving indian soil...
I am wondering why!!
Jai ho.
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dagabaaj
09-25 11:07 AM
that Fragomen is a big firm but they are absolutely careless and have no regard for the eventual client / applicant. All said and done I am getting an opportunity to bash them I am not going to miss it. They have messed with my life and career. They deserve to embaressed in public :mad:.
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amsgc
03-20 10:01 PM
Dude,
Please stop confusing people - there is no such thing as a H-1B transfer.
It is a misnomer. When you move to a new employer, the new employer files a "new petition" with a request to extend your stay.
If you wish to continue working for your current employer, you can do so.
Refer to snathan's post, he has summed it up correctly.
The original poster is good to go - all he has to do is inform USCIS that the never worked for the new employer, and therefore, there are no paystubs, w2forms, etc.
Yes there is and it is called visa portability. :) this is for you as well piyu, do not jump into summary so fast. When you say some one is wrong, you have to quote law.
Ok, Here's what law says about so called "transfer"
. . .
Please stop confusing people - there is no such thing as a H-1B transfer.
It is a misnomer. When you move to a new employer, the new employer files a "new petition" with a request to extend your stay.
If you wish to continue working for your current employer, you can do so.
Refer to snathan's post, he has summed it up correctly.
The original poster is good to go - all he has to do is inform USCIS that the never worked for the new employer, and therefore, there are no paystubs, w2forms, etc.
Yes there is and it is called visa portability. :) this is for you as well piyu, do not jump into summary so fast. When you say some one is wrong, you have to quote law.
Ok, Here's what law says about so called "transfer"
. . .
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BharatPremi
12-10 03:20 PM
I fully agree.
They may have some material education.
But Indian guys working here are third class fellows.
Arrogant, low tendencies, flase values etc.
They don't even mix with other Indians and think they are in Heaven or some thing.Don't worry if they loose their GCc.
These guys are unworthy of gettings GCs.
Best Regards
We are here talking about results of passiveness and highly critical need of activeness from members. And we have members from all countries. If you can contribute your ideas within the main theme of this thread than please do so otherwise stop this unnecessary ranting.It does not serve any purpose.
They may have some material education.
But Indian guys working here are third class fellows.
Arrogant, low tendencies, flase values etc.
They don't even mix with other Indians and think they are in Heaven or some thing.Don't worry if they loose their GCc.
These guys are unworthy of gettings GCs.
Best Regards
We are here talking about results of passiveness and highly critical need of activeness from members. And we have members from all countries. If you can contribute your ideas within the main theme of this thread than please do so otherwise stop this unnecessary ranting.It does not serve any purpose.
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husamymd
09-20 02:28 PM
Yes,
If we are to acheive what we have set out to do, paid ads are the way to go. In a way we have to disseminate via propaganda the difference between us and the illegals and our worth to the country.
Stuff like this takes time and more importantly money. While IV is a grass roots organization a certain degree of sophistication vis a vis public relations will go a long way in strenghtning our stance and garnering public support.
Projecting ourselves to the media as educated, intellectual elite requires a lot of image building that would be difficult in a mass rally where huddled masses are easily seen as being the downtrodden.
If we are to acheive what we have set out to do, paid ads are the way to go. In a way we have to disseminate via propaganda the difference between us and the illegals and our worth to the country.
Stuff like this takes time and more importantly money. While IV is a grass roots organization a certain degree of sophistication vis a vis public relations will go a long way in strenghtning our stance and garnering public support.
Projecting ourselves to the media as educated, intellectual elite requires a lot of image building that would be difficult in a mass rally where huddled masses are easily seen as being the downtrodden.
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paskal
11-17 01:46 PM
please pm dandruff
he is working on creating a local chapter in NE/KS
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jchan
02-15 02:44 PM
You have a great plan, come to US on H1 and within 6 months get EAD and you are free from H1b crackdown by jumping to EAD. You think USCIS, Grasley, sanders, and anti eb folks are a bunch of idiots, they will send you and me packing with the same rfe they are hitting h1 folks with if everybody gets to pre file AOS and get EAD. that is why you need to strengthen ac21 by removing same\semilar job condition and other potential h1 like rfe's, otherwise you will drag us down along with you and turn ead into h1.
Anyway I have made my point in this post and all my previous posts. ASK anybody who has been waiting for last 5 to 10 years without GC If what I said is wrong or laughable. I am not one of those bitter folks who says its my way or the highway. Good luck to you guys.
Now it's clear. You don't want people to drag you down, even when they have had gone through everything, Labor, I-140, been in the country for 10 years, etc. -- I thought you had a noble cause from the older posts, but apparently I was wrong.
This also started getting ridiculous. In my own post, and agreed by almost everyone else, I specially said to put on restrictions to those who can file AOS, e.g. with I-1140 approved, or with a PD older than a certain number of years. Where did you get the impression that every H1 can arrive this country and be on EAD in six months? Why did I found that the extreme generalization and scare tactic employed by you has an alarming resemblance to those from Lou Dobbs and Grassley?
And to answer your last question, even with a PD of 2007, I've been in the US for ten years, but could not file green card due to company bankruptcy, layoff, etc. and I am 90% certain you've been here shorter than I am. Then should give up your EAD till everyone who stays here longer than you does?
Anyway I have made my point in this post and all my previous posts. ASK anybody who has been waiting for last 5 to 10 years without GC If what I said is wrong or laughable. I am not one of those bitter folks who says its my way or the highway. Good luck to you guys.
Now it's clear. You don't want people to drag you down, even when they have had gone through everything, Labor, I-140, been in the country for 10 years, etc. -- I thought you had a noble cause from the older posts, but apparently I was wrong.
This also started getting ridiculous. In my own post, and agreed by almost everyone else, I specially said to put on restrictions to those who can file AOS, e.g. with I-1140 approved, or with a PD older than a certain number of years. Where did you get the impression that every H1 can arrive this country and be on EAD in six months? Why did I found that the extreme generalization and scare tactic employed by you has an alarming resemblance to those from Lou Dobbs and Grassley?
And to answer your last question, even with a PD of 2007, I've been in the US for ten years, but could not file green card due to company bankruptcy, layoff, etc. and I am 90% certain you've been here shorter than I am. Then should give up your EAD till everyone who stays here longer than you does?
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SiliconValleyBob
06-09 12:21 PM
Hello,
I am a Canadian and have a PD of 3-05 LC apporved 10-06, filed i140 in 5-07 and am putting together the documents to send in 485 application this month.
I am on the 7th year of H1-b but have extension valid until 2009
In a few months I won't have a job. I am trying to apply for 485 before it ends.
Is it possible to find a job that is different than my current job description?
When I look for a job, what to I tell potential employer? do they need to sponsor the H1-b or Green Card? do they need a lawyer to manage my stuff?
What do I do after job ends? Does my family and I have to immediately leave? I heard that I can get a few months by applying for a different status (to take care of affairs) but that only get me a few months.
We were so happy last week , as our PD came up and we can go through the final stage to get GC... is all lost right now?
Would really appreciate some guidance.
-Bob
I am a Canadian and have a PD of 3-05 LC apporved 10-06, filed i140 in 5-07 and am putting together the documents to send in 485 application this month.
I am on the 7th year of H1-b but have extension valid until 2009
In a few months I won't have a job. I am trying to apply for 485 before it ends.
Is it possible to find a job that is different than my current job description?
When I look for a job, what to I tell potential employer? do they need to sponsor the H1-b or Green Card? do they need a lawyer to manage my stuff?
What do I do after job ends? Does my family and I have to immediately leave? I heard that I can get a few months by applying for a different status (to take care of affairs) but that only get me a few months.
We were so happy last week , as our PD came up and we can go through the final stage to get GC... is all lost right now?
Would really appreciate some guidance.
-Bob
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nat23
11-08 01:56 PM
May be you do not know the meaning of three red dots for TheOmbudsman (it used to be two red dots this morning), which is "so many IV members do not like his postings" i.e, TheOmbudsman is "anti-IV"
FYI, if he does not like a posting with the word "CIR", why can't he ignore the post instead of replying to it with an assumption "people who mention CIR supports amnesty".
IV members support CIR just because it has EB reliefs (manager's amendment) - is it not simple enough to understand?
As someone pointed out from TheOmbudsman's posting, what "Rumsfeld resigning" has to do with immigration? What food you get from here?
You want to talk about Rumsfield's resignation and its relevance. Here it is: With Rumsfield resigning, the President has sent a clear message to Dems that he is more than willing to work with them. In the press conference at noon, the first thing Nancy Pelosi asked from the President was that Rumsfield should go and it happened.
Moving forward if anything has to become a law the Congress (which is Dem controlled) and the President have to work together else there will be nothing for anybody which includes Immigration Reform. I'm sure you know the President can veto anything. He can veto the immigration reform the Dems propose by saying its not along the lines he wanted it to be. So Rumsfield resignation is a good sign if you look at the over all picture. It also means the Dems are going to spend less time setting up inquiry commitees on everything the President & Republicans have done in the last 6 yrs thus moving forward quickly.
I guess I did make a case for my phrase "food for thought" without insult and sarcasm.
FYI, if he does not like a posting with the word "CIR", why can't he ignore the post instead of replying to it with an assumption "people who mention CIR supports amnesty".
IV members support CIR just because it has EB reliefs (manager's amendment) - is it not simple enough to understand?
As someone pointed out from TheOmbudsman's posting, what "Rumsfeld resigning" has to do with immigration? What food you get from here?
You want to talk about Rumsfield's resignation and its relevance. Here it is: With Rumsfield resigning, the President has sent a clear message to Dems that he is more than willing to work with them. In the press conference at noon, the first thing Nancy Pelosi asked from the President was that Rumsfield should go and it happened.
Moving forward if anything has to become a law the Congress (which is Dem controlled) and the President have to work together else there will be nothing for anybody which includes Immigration Reform. I'm sure you know the President can veto anything. He can veto the immigration reform the Dems propose by saying its not along the lines he wanted it to be. So Rumsfield resignation is a good sign if you look at the over all picture. It also means the Dems are going to spend less time setting up inquiry commitees on everything the President & Republicans have done in the last 6 yrs thus moving forward quickly.
I guess I did make a case for my phrase "food for thought" without insult and sarcasm.
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06-14 02:39 AM
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waitnwatch
05-31 04:33 PM
Yes, a majority Vote.
"The motion to Lay on the Table is undebatable, and requires only a majority vote, notwithstanding the fact that if not taken from the table the question is suppressed."
The question here is when was the "motion to lie on table" for SA 1249 voted on? Does anybody from the core know..............
"The motion to Lay on the Table is undebatable, and requires only a majority vote, notwithstanding the fact that if not taken from the table the question is suppressed."
The question here is when was the "motion to lie on table" for SA 1249 voted on? Does anybody from the core know..............
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07-23 09:24 AM
called - but can not vote.
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senthil1
06-22 12:12 PM
Just a simple question. Corporations are arguing that every year 100k new jobs are created in high tech. Even 75% of the new jobs are for H1b then only 75k H1bs are needed. Even if you include other jobs teacher,Healthcare you do not need more than 120K every year Why do you need unlimited H1bs? Any pro immigrant lobbying group is not giving justification in numbers though everyone accepts there should be increase in H1b numbers.There should be increase in GC numbers as backlog had increased(But in this case also no one gave correct numbers based on requirement) but nothing wrong in H1b quota and some regulations in H1b to minimise abuse.
Another aspect is in the bill they gave 115k H1b for 2008. If they do not put restrictions your company cannot get any new H1b as most of H1b quota will be used by Indian consulting companies in one day. Do you think it is correct?
If not correct what is your solution? Corporation solution for this problem is unlimited H1bs by giving exemption to STEM and US master degree holders from H1b quota.
I am also opposing the restrictions in H1b program in the bill. But I do not have any alternative solution for the problems in the H1b program.
Again, there is a common misconception that companies have unlimited access to talent in other countries, and the only limiting factor is the quota of H1B visas.
Not true, by a long shot.
To give a simple example, our company is looking for people in Australia, Denmark, Finland, Canada and UK since the pool of qualified people in India has dried up in our field. Can anyone guess where is the biggest talent pool? Nope, not in Bangalore, its right here in USA!! Not all companies are looking for the cheapest person. They are looking for the best person. And in many cases, the best person is already here, and has gathered more experience over the years working for US companies. But they cannot hire her, simply because she is on a visa and thereby beholden to another company. If she had a GC, that would free up the talent pool and thereby make many companies less reliant on H1Bs. Increasing GCs for EB candidates has the same effect as increasing H1 quota, with the added benefit of making the cream of the crop available and reducing the uncertainty and hassle of hiring an H1.
This is why it is in the best interest of companies to support EB GCs.
My friend Senthil makes the same mistakes (repeatedly, unfortunately):
(A) Assuming that "good" companies will not be affected by any change of increase in fees for H1B, since they presumably have unlimited pockets and unlimited access to unlimited talent. (Big ha!ha!)
(B) "Good" companies can always get to hire people in US if they exist, and the only reason they hire H1 is that they cannot find anyone in US as there is no one in US who is good enough for the job for love or money (Bigger ha!ha!)
As to the question "then why are companies not doing enough for EB candidates", I do not know, and neither does anyone know, truthfully. Maybe they are, but as someone pointed out, no single player in the CIR game has enough clout to run the whole show. Or else the bill would have been passed long ago.
Another aspect is in the bill they gave 115k H1b for 2008. If they do not put restrictions your company cannot get any new H1b as most of H1b quota will be used by Indian consulting companies in one day. Do you think it is correct?
If not correct what is your solution? Corporation solution for this problem is unlimited H1bs by giving exemption to STEM and US master degree holders from H1b quota.
I am also opposing the restrictions in H1b program in the bill. But I do not have any alternative solution for the problems in the H1b program.
Again, there is a common misconception that companies have unlimited access to talent in other countries, and the only limiting factor is the quota of H1B visas.
Not true, by a long shot.
To give a simple example, our company is looking for people in Australia, Denmark, Finland, Canada and UK since the pool of qualified people in India has dried up in our field. Can anyone guess where is the biggest talent pool? Nope, not in Bangalore, its right here in USA!! Not all companies are looking for the cheapest person. They are looking for the best person. And in many cases, the best person is already here, and has gathered more experience over the years working for US companies. But they cannot hire her, simply because she is on a visa and thereby beholden to another company. If she had a GC, that would free up the talent pool and thereby make many companies less reliant on H1Bs. Increasing GCs for EB candidates has the same effect as increasing H1 quota, with the added benefit of making the cream of the crop available and reducing the uncertainty and hassle of hiring an H1.
This is why it is in the best interest of companies to support EB GCs.
My friend Senthil makes the same mistakes (repeatedly, unfortunately):
(A) Assuming that "good" companies will not be affected by any change of increase in fees for H1B, since they presumably have unlimited pockets and unlimited access to unlimited talent. (Big ha!ha!)
(B) "Good" companies can always get to hire people in US if they exist, and the only reason they hire H1 is that they cannot find anyone in US as there is no one in US who is good enough for the job for love or money (Bigger ha!ha!)
As to the question "then why are companies not doing enough for EB candidates", I do not know, and neither does anyone know, truthfully. Maybe they are, but as someone pointed out, no single player in the CIR game has enough clout to run the whole show. Or else the bill would have been passed long ago.
ca_immigrant
05-21 05:06 PM
Today also I sent an email to some of my friends requesting to look at this thread and donate...come on guys ! as someone said before antis are sittingon a lot of $$$ we need to contribute.....!!!!
arkanand
09-13 03:42 PM
I am amazed in the solidarity just by seeing the responses. But if i think deeper, this rally is not for some national cause or for some greater benefit.
Every single person here is doing this for one's own SELFISH reasons. Why then are we talking like we are marching to save the planet or save the poor animals going to slaughter or human trafficking or AIDS prevention or even the war in Iraq.
Yes, we make things easy for people down the road (however that is not our true intention, our true intention is just about how to get the card faster) but trying to pull in more people to the rally by playing on people's guilt is not the approach. You say it like you see it. We want people to come so I CAN GET MY GREEN CARD SOONER. Thats all. So everyone has the same motive...thats all. Nothing more or nothing less. Everyone is going for A SELFISH INTEREST...nothing based on higher principles of duty, sacrifice or to ensure higher morals of life. Everything is for sensual enjoyment.
Dont write like we are seeking independence or freedom.
I guess...my head will start to roll...sorry for looking at things differently, I dont mean to find fault but i think this is just one big rally everyone wants to get their green card sooner. Nothing more than that...in my opinion..really not even about folks who may apply in 2010?
Every single person here is doing this for one's own SELFISH reasons. Why then are we talking like we are marching to save the planet or save the poor animals going to slaughter or human trafficking or AIDS prevention or even the war in Iraq.
Yes, we make things easy for people down the road (however that is not our true intention, our true intention is just about how to get the card faster) but trying to pull in more people to the rally by playing on people's guilt is not the approach. You say it like you see it. We want people to come so I CAN GET MY GREEN CARD SOONER. Thats all. So everyone has the same motive...thats all. Nothing more or nothing less. Everyone is going for A SELFISH INTEREST...nothing based on higher principles of duty, sacrifice or to ensure higher morals of life. Everything is for sensual enjoyment.
Dont write like we are seeking independence or freedom.
I guess...my head will start to roll...sorry for looking at things differently, I dont mean to find fault but i think this is just one big rally everyone wants to get their green card sooner. Nothing more than that...in my opinion..really not even about folks who may apply in 2010?
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